Draupadi (Sanskrit: द्रौपदी, romanized: draupadī, lit. Shishupala was in fact killed by Krishna during the Rajasuya Yaga. People do charity to gain back anything in return. MUST READ: Different names of Karna in Mahabharat | Karna is not his original name. But he chose not to. You wanted to win the swayamvara but received insult as Draupadi didn't wanted to Mary Suta putra ( though you had all the qualities of Kshatiyas). Draupadi Cheer Haran, Lord Krishana did not save Draupadi from Cheer Haran. Then Pandu did another selfish thing. Krishna (Vishnu) is a protector, while Siva being the destroyer and Brahma the creator. He used the word unchaste, meaning not pure. Where is Yudhistir's wisdom visible in that? Draupadi had a servant named Nitambini. on top of that.. she marries 4 brothers.. tell me HONESTLY... can you respect a woman like that? Another reason could be due to TRP (Television Rating Point). Doesnt mean he didnt care. But all the 4 forsake him. The question about Karna could be placed better, if it followed another question ‘who in the entire Mahabharata, actually liked Draupadi very much, and supported her sincerely, apart from Krishna, and controversially her husbands. Draupadi will become your queen, why are you fighting with Duryodhana? This means that Karna is invited in the Swayamvar. In BORI’s version, Karna takes part in the Swayamvar but failed in the task. She also asked Krishna why Krishna did not tell her as he knew everything, Krishna told her as it was destined for her. Dharma has several meanings. Karna's character teaches us about loyalty, donation,perfection. 5:10. When he learned the truth about Arjuna, he didnt hate him..but a true warrior never goes back on his words. Hare Krsna TV - ISKCON Desire Tree 5,789 views. But because with all of this, Karna still sided with the untruth or adharma. Anger is natural under circumstances. Moreover he liked Karna.Karna is praised many times by Lord Krishna. And Karna during all instances even until the end had never thought about himself. Duryodhan commanded that respect.Kunti abandoned her child, and still did not have guts to accept him back. Arjuna is the Head Priest, you -Krishna are the presiding deity. नानृतं = could not karna is man of his word2.he never afraid of his death even though he knew he is going to die3.If he wants he can be the king but he decided to be a friend U honestly belief that draupathi is pativratha where in the hell or in heaven or anywhere did u see a women marries his husbands 4 brothers well i havent except here In mahabharath arjuna had the support of krishna,lord hanuman,during the war but karna fought alone with all three and he was still killed unfarelywhat makes u think that arjuna is greater than karna. Still he was about to help draupadi....if krishna was even a moment late, karna would've killed Dushashan. Karna epitomized loyalty and generosity. What Krishna did was right and what Arjuna did was right in the given circumstances. Our audience is familiar with the popular version of the story in which Draupadi rejects Karna. Even Yudhistra never stopped his brothers from insulting Karan when he was supposed to be dharmaraj. It contains all kinds of sheds. PDF articles by pilot baba throws more light. Thus he had been released from his human form being blessed by Vishnu at the end.2) Karna was born indestructible, we all know that without Krishna's trickery, nothing could've killed Karna. Right thing should have been accepting her as wife, and then doing "tyag/renunciation" for Arjun so that she remained respected in the society. Hence he is the yeldest brother of Pandavas. Karna was known as daanveer Karna. She was born to assist Lord Krishna to destroy all the arrogant Kings. Is it true or not. It can be for material pleasure or name or can be for enjoying a higher seat after death. Karna refused all – temptations, reasoning, fear, and the revelation of the secret of his birth. like amba,ambika,ambalika why they arrange competition in swayamwar this is like I keeping conpetition and give you the kohinoor diamond if you win that,when you in the chance of nearly win I stoped the competition in afraid and say your clothes is not good so I will not allow you to win the kohinoor what a justice. Does Draupadi rejects Karna saying that Karna is a Sutaputra? 9. पार्थिवै = King It is none of them . धनुर्वेदा = archery Still he was about to help draupadi....if krishna was even a moment late, karna would've killed Dushashan.I dont compare Karna and Krishna, they both understood why the other did what he did...they both respected each other immensely and so do I. People called dharma to what pandavas did because pandavas are their heroes. The killing of Abhimanyu was trecaherous !! Karna's revenge cannot be justified but he had already payed for his sins during his lifetime. Many people refer that to point out there was some thing between Draupadi and Karna. If Karna had extreme loyalty towards Duryodhan it is understandable because at the other end, he sees no rights and claims to throne, nor decent behavior.Draupadi's humiliation was wrong. As the conversation between the five Pāṇḍavas below shows, they had developed feelings for Draupadī sometime during or after the archery contest so it's possible the backstory that 'Kuntī mistakes Draupadī for alms and then orders them to share' was invented later to justify five men marrying the same woman which was forbidden at the time. Not just Mahabharata, if we have read Vishnu's other tales, Vishnu always protects the worlds and ensures the balance of the world. I used these two words together to connote 'the truth, or secret of dharma' This blog is to help me think, question, understand and resolve the truth surrounding my dharma. We do not know how badly hurt he was and who was responsible. In this section, Vaishampayana says that Jishnu (or Arjuna) get up from the group of Brahmanas to take part in Draupadi’s Swayamvar when all the kings gave up and failed in the task. Pandavas n kurus are sides of the same coin. (perhaps that is the reason why Modi, being knowledgeable in such matters, took his oath as PM during that period of the day) So, Krishna was merely mentioning that Draupadi along with other queens and princesses would come to Karna's coronation. you all say that abimanyu was killed by unrighteous means ... but the truth is during the war .when chakravuha was formed by kauravas arjuna was not present to penetrate it.. so pandavas ask abhimanyu to do the job .. he says that he knows only how to get in .. he does not know how to come out .. so the pandavas assure him that when he penetrates the vuha they will cover him.... relying on them abhimanyu penetrates the vuha and the pandavas fail to protect him.. so he was naturally surrounded by enemies .. at this point he was alone present between the kauravas .. having being outnumbered he was killed....... there is no adharma done by karna or guru dhrone in killing abhimanyu ,it was pandavas carelessness which got him killed, i think karna was best during the virat yudh he fight without dijaya dhanush n also he was undefeatable tht time coz he have cawaz instead arjun used the sambohan astras which make all unconscious regarding gandharva capturing the duryodhana karna was weapons less tht time n also they r in full entertainment ragarding who is best karna wid a solo power has got digbijaya but whisch is possible only wid combination of whole pandavas simply karna is best. I truly agree,even kunti knew karn was her son, she never convinced pandav not to insult saying sutputra.though karn was alleged to involve in saying draupadi a VAISHYA but non of the pandav were disagree on the saying of draupadi a suputra to karn..How karn left the compony of duryodhan who had given a respect and honor in the adverse aura..Karn never joined duryodhan intentionally,, when all rejected him even he was meant to deserve all equivalent to Arjuna.. Come, join us. Note that Pandu did not give similar share to his blind brother before. Nothing seems to irk me more. Compared to what the Pandavas did ( which was akin to rape of Draupadi ), Karna'a act paled in comparison ( it was akin to ogling at Draupadi ).. Krishna believes it so for years later when he tries to lure Karna away from the Kauravas he offers the following bribe, “You will be king. In early days (Mahabharatha time) it was not uncommon to praise the opponent for a move well done - but hatred blinds your judgment and once that happens, you are blinded to the basics of etiquette. So Krishna tries to trick Karna through words. To remove the confusion, Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute (BORI) came up with the idea of a critical version. Duryodhana as bad as he is portrayed, was the only one who gave Karna the respect he deserved, unlike Bheem and Draupadi eho insulted Karna because he was a sut-putra. Krishna: Do you know that you are the eldest Kunti Putra. Dronacharya was so drunk in pride of Arjuna that he sacrificed Eklavya, he ignored his own son, and he is indirectly the cause of the miseries of Karna. Or rather that is my argument entirely.Karna was loyal to Dhuryodhan, even when he knew that he was doing things wrong and indulged in cheating. Also read that few of them still are alive even today.Google Mahaavatar babaji kripacharya . Why ?also could you write what Maan Draupadi replied to Karna afetr getting refusal answer from the Lord Sri krishna . Anoop - i see that too. From the above discussion, we can conclude that Karna participated in Draupadi’s Swayamvar and failed in the task. But the fact is Karna possessed all 5 of those qualities.. then why didnt krishna allow draupadi to marry him.. Infact it was Krishna who reminded her of her rights to chose whom she would like to marry.As far as the Viraat war is concerned Karna didnt run away.. Duryodhana got injured while fighting with Arjuna, so karna like a true friend took him to safety. The living example is all says Bhisma, Drona and Karna were on Adharma side because they had lost and killed. Even as a child, when I first heard the vastraharan episode, could not believe how a husband can bet his wife. karna was such a person he had saved pandavas and kept dharma.stayed on words which has given to duryodhana. was karnan is in his right mind? Chopra’s Mahabharat or its recent 2013 remake on Star Plus named Mahabharat sticks to the popular storyline? We tend to look at things from people's view, who cheated who and who did what, etc. But karna is a character for whom nothing went right but he always was right. Does Draupadi rejects Karna saying that Karna is a Sutaputra? compared to Karna's factual statement...5. तव अकृतास्त्रेण = No knowledge of the weapon What does BORI’s Mahabharata say on this issue? He knew draupadi had wished for 5 qualities in her husband, which were seen one in each of the pandavas... thats why she had to marry 5 men.. It also indicates that Drupada (Draupadi’s father) does not consider Karna unqualified for the Swayamvar. No . Why he did not take the efforts to create a knowledge databank consisting of written scriptures, astrological texts to disseminate his knowledge and illuminate the hungry minds. There is a common belief in South India that Draupadi was also an incarnation of Maha Kali. In Mahabharat, even Suyodhan was a good person. Just put yourself in Karnas position. I only see a whore of the lowest category sharing her bed with 5 slaves ." Now the problem is that there are many retellings of Mahabharata which are sometimes contrasting in nature. While you have highlighted the negative side of Karna, which is acceptable becuase he insulted Draupadi. He proved that a person can not recognized by his birth (Janma), a person is recognized by his work (Karma). What Karna did was right. He says " Oh!!! Ultimately do you remember Nakul? So much for respect and humiiation dude .. We say Pandavas are on dharma side because they won the battle. He had all the qualities of all pandavas combined. But guys, what was right then is supposed to be right now and will remain so after thousand years .. and what they did can never be classified as right .. पराणतॊ = succeed Karna was a noble soul who became victim of circumstances. Somewhere I read that this was necessary and part of leela by Krishna. Long before Pandavas were into the picture, Draupadi sought Krishna. Karna was the most powerful warrior after Bheeshm & Drona. The typical reasons are because he was abandoned as a child, he was cheated by Krishna, he should have been treated as their brother, he was loved by Dhuryodhana and because he never said 'no' to anybody. Well in all of the people there, only Karna was the one who stood up to help Draupadi, but she couldnt say a word to him and he misinterpreted this. साज्यं कर्तु धनुर = string the bow tell me honestly, would you respect a woman who consistently bitches and argues.. who seeks revenge on everyone.. who makes fun of blind people.. who thinks she is all that? Mahabharata symbolizes the end of Dwapar yug and the start of Kali yug. This is evident in the next para ....Drona, who was the guru of the princes requests them as a GuruDakshina , the throne of Drupada ( due to an ancient rivalry ) .. and Arjuna , proudly captures Drupada .. I like your reply and agree with it. परायणैः = well versed It is Karna who stands out the entire episode . Arjuna rescued them. Etiquettes - those are what form the protocols of warfare. कर्ण = Karna You must read the 'Mrutyunjay', then you will know why Karna did so? They collected and compiled the most authentic & oldest shlokas from all the versions of Mahabharata prevalent in different parts of the subcontinent. He always wanted to know who it was who let him off in the river in that little box. Karna, in fact, abused Draupadi in the Kuru court, called her a “bandhaki”, meaning a prostitute, and instigated Dushshsasana to disrobe her. But why did this battle had to happen? So where are they !!! Lord Krishna asked Karna how he knew that the Pandavas would win the war, to which he replied, "Kurukshetra is a sacrificial field. Bheem? दवीजा: = O Brahmanas, If still in doubt, you can check the English meaning of Sanskrit words from here: http://spokensanskrit.org/. Karna was the great person but because of his words about Panchali made him evil from the Pandavas view.He preferred Durodhanas side was not his falt. Here's the most important conversation between Karna and Sri Krishna that is an eye opener - Mahabharata the Epic of Epics has some beautiful aspects of … I know, let's have the swords drawn out against me ! Different People, Different Thoughts. In it he very sincerely asks Karna to forgive him for all the things he had to go through in his life. Thus the popular story that in which “Draupadi rejects Karna” is later added to the narrative. He always wanted to know who he was and where he came from. One of the shrines, where She is a Grama-Devatha and Kula-Devatha to many, is located in one of the small villages of Tamil Nadu. Okay .. Obviously, they didn't give a damn about her. Why do you think it to be so? Krishna was testing how much can Karna sacrifice and how much is he taken up by greed. This critical edition will contain the oldest shlokas, thus removing the part which is later added to it. i agree to some gentleman who said vishnu did the balancing act.. i mean he made sure the universe had a balance of good and evil. He had qualities of 'Kshatriyas' though he was 'Suta putra' His qualities made him the king of Anga. Arjun always got what he wanted and also what he did not need, however Karna always gave everything he had but never earned the respect he deserved. Sahadev? The Vastraharan Scene.. .. But Karna's son was the first to die in the war. It is said that Krishna and Draupadi shared an iconic relationship. But they shared her and lost respect for her. Chronicler..i love your post! The village is named KONDAL, Mayiladuthurai Taluk, Nagapattinam District, Nidur P.O, Tamil Nadu. In this version, Karna is among the group of participating kings in the Swayamvar. Lord Krishna praised Karna even during the battle between Arjuna and Karna. This clearly evident when he donates the fruits of all his good deeds including this one. One of the popular stories in our mythology is that of Lord Krishna and Draupadi, the wife Pandavas. We all know that 'KRISHNA' was the reincarnation of vishnu... and like all reincarnations this one too had a purpose.. what we all know is that he was born to kill his uncle 'KANSA'.. but thats not totally true.. Krishna was born to reduce the no of SHATRIYAS.. as most of them were immortal and hence there was no balance.. lot of them were unjust. It is one of the most debated topics since it involves Draupadi Whom Krishna mentions in his speech to Karna while offering the royal crown of the Kuru kingdom. 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